busheyhammer85
12:56 Mon Feb 19
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Haha...
Most people in the boxing world called Groves.
Eubank is a middleweight, GG is a big Super Middleweight.
GG has boxed at the very highest level. CE has fought one person of note, and lost.
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danny dyer
12:53 Mon Feb 19
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Hardly the call of the year. He came into the ring at over 13st.
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Trevor B
12:12 Mon Feb 19
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The 'I told you so' routine is a bit childish though, isn't it?
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Swiss.
12:08 Mon Feb 19
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I said Groves woulds win. Nice some of us know a bit about boxing.
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BulphanIron
11:24 Mon Feb 19
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Russ of the BML 10:15 Mon Feb 19
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Eubank will come again and become a very wealthy man without actually doing much of real worth. Groves the same probably.
Make you right on Eubank, but Groves has already done plenty of note!
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Gentleman Jim
11:21 Mon Feb 19
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Junior needs to be trained by someone other than his Dad. Then he will stand a chance of becoming a decent fighter.
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Trevor B
10:20 Mon Feb 19
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Hamed was scathing in his criticism of Eubank Jnr, TBH in the past I thought he was just a bit bitter aftr words between him and Eubank Snr, but after that fight I'm beginning to think he is right. Eubank Jnr is nowhere near the level that his team think he is.
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Russ of the BML
10:15 Mon Feb 19
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Was a pretty poor fight. It seems that Eubank Jnr may just be a myth after all. Groves did enough without doing anything amazing. Not sure what the hell Eubank was doing really. He couldn't get into Groves and should have changed his game plan. It was only when Groves dislocated his shoulder did Eubank get on top.
I was really disappointed with it to be honest. Can't knock Groves though. His game-plan worked a treat and he just sat off, jabbed his points on the board and wasn't troubled when Eubank got inside. He's top big and too experienced for Eubank.
Eubank will come again and become a very wealthy man without actually doing much of real worth. Groves the same probably.
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Iron2010
2:22 Sun Feb 18
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Mike
I agree with Neilalex in that he dosent need to retire he just needs to pick the right fights at Middleweight. He is well worth watching at the right level and will still be able to earn a good few quid.
A lot of people are laughing at him and his Dad this morning though and I doubt even their property portfolios can console their egos today.
Fair play to him if he comes back and wins a world title because a look at who is in the middleweight division makes it seem impossible.
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neilalex
2:13 Sun Feb 18
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Quite apart from any problems around his attacking style Eubank is too easy to hit. At world level, against the likes of Canelo and Golovkin, you're not going to survive being as open as that. Groves has a good jab, but didn't really follow up much. Saunders boxed Eubank's head off in the early rounds.
Ultimately he's an immensely strong bloke, a superb athlete, and will overpower most at the weight, but will come up short against genuine world class fighters.
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Takashi Miike
1:38 Sun Feb 18
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Iron, woodhall made a great point last night about jnr needing to use his power after working off a jab, something he seems either reluctant to do or doesn't know how to do, and something the stats of Golovkin in the Canelo fight perfectly sum up. in a way, and I can't stand the cunt, but fat Naz wasn't far wrong about Jnr retiring if he's not willing to adapt his style
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1:26 Sun Feb 18
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BJ Saunders had already shown up Eubank for his ineptitude against good boxers.
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Iron2010
1:24 Sun Feb 18
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Eubank could still win a world title against a middleweight who also stumbles forward without much thought. As Groves is still canny enough with a powerful enough punch to operate at elite level without troubling the real stars.
I think that we were all blinded by Eubanks terrific work on the inside against over matched opponents that we failed to spot his total lack of quality approach work. I even think that Groves and his camp fell into the same trap which is why they gave Junior so much respect and were intent on survival. Groves should have got Eubank out of there boxing like that quite comfortably but was too nervous to free his hands. Juniors fight against the pikey when he last thought at elite level was almost identical as until Saunders tired he had no idea how to get past the jab.
Would love Mayweathers camp to have coached him from a kid as he has so many positives.
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Takashi Miike
1:00 Sun Feb 18
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Iron, I agree that Groves is short of the elite level and its interesting looking at the stats from the Golovkin/Canelo fight to see the comparisons......
Total Punches Landed - Golovkin 218, Alvarez 169
Total Jabs Landed - Golovkin 108, Alvarez 55
Power Punches Landed - Golovkin 110, Alvarez 114
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Johnson
12:57 Sun Feb 18
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It wasn’t a great fight despite some of the boxing fraternity trying to spin it this morning.
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Iron2010
12:57 Sun Feb 18
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There is no doubt in my mind that Froch would have knocked Eubank out (fairly quickly) if he was in that fight.
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Iron2010
12:53 Sun Feb 18
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Mike
I’m not in any way making a case to say that Junior won. I am simply saying that a truely world class operator regularly lands huge punches and eventually stops someone stumbling forward so openly. In many ways those stats are an example of how poor Groves was as well.
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Takashi Miike
12:13 Sun Feb 18
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"Groves barely laid a glove on him"
Compubox stats..........
Total Punches (Body Landed) - Groves 117, Eubank 92
Total Jabs (Body Landed) - Groves 33, Eubank 17
Power Punches (Body Landed) - Groves 84, Eubank 75
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Full Claret Jacket
12:03 Sun Feb 18
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Iron2010 10:22 Sun Feb 18
Agree, Groves did nothing of note other than rub his head in Eubanks cut and tie up his arms every time he cam flailing in.
Naz was right that Eubank doesn't have a punch and if you have poor technique and can't put an opponent down with a big punch then you aren't going to get very far.
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dicksie3
12:01 Sun Feb 18
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Always fancied Groves to win. Chelsea cunt, he may be, but he's fought some tough fights in his career.
Eubank Jnr has not had many (if any) fights against boxers in the same class as Groves, and it showed.
He's just a poser cunt, like his dad, except that his old man could back it up and was a fucking great boxer - even though he's as mad as a box of frogs.
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neilalex
11:23 Sun Feb 18
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*Eubank*.
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